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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754388" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754388">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>just a heads up to <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="491">@WG-compiler-nll</span> that we'll be starting our 30min weekly meeting in about 5 minutes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754413" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754413">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>as usual, we'll take notes in the <a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Non-lexical-lifetimes-NLL-Triage--AMicW69dcqk67pkASpFjFKpHAg-Em2cJrvxQMMFWLE7lE5Be" target="_blank" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Non-lexical-lifetimes-NLL-Triage--AMicW69dcqk67pkASpFjFKpHAg-Em2cJrvxQMMFWLE7lE5Be">NLL Triage Paper</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754631" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754631">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:29)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="emoji emoji-1f44b" title="wave">:wave:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754703" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754703">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay so things are looking pretty good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754725" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754725">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>thanks to a lot of hard work from all of you, we finally have pretty respectable performance numbers, at least with respect to execution time: <a href="https://perf.rust-lang.org/nll-dashboard.html" target="_blank" title="https://perf.rust-lang.org/nll-dashboard.html">https://perf.rust-lang.org/nll-dashboard.html</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754736" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754736">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>as for memory usage ... well ... I think the consensus is that its good enough for now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754790" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754790">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I want to go through the <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=+label%3AI-nominated+label%3AA-NLL+" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=+label%3AI-nominated+label%3AA-NLL+">nominated NLL issues</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754795" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754795">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>(when I click that, there's only one of them)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754797" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754797">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm there's just one ... for some reason I thought <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> had nominated more</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754800" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754800">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>same</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754807" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754807">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>This might be a short meeting then..</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754822" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754822">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>the quickest meeting of them all</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754825" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754825">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>well nonetheless, lets discuss NLL allows creating variables that are immediately unusable. <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53695" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53695">#53695</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754826" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754826">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>I thought I had :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754830" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754830">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>but we can also look at things that are not assigned</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754834" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754834">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>and then discuss "what's next" perhaps</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754835" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754835">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>(there's still plenty to talk about, but lets take care of this first)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754899" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754899">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>So the main issue for <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53695" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53695">#53695</a> is that we are vacillating back-and-forth about whether we need to fix this or not</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754933" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754933">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>(is <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116118">@Matthew Jasper</span> here?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754937" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754937">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>but it seems quite possible that a small change, of adding fake reads as roughly described <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53695#issuecomment-416623051" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53695#issuecomment-416623051">here</a>, could fix this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754963" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754963">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>i'm here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754965" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754965">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it would be quite confusing or unintuitive if you were to run into this but it isn't doing anything wrong necessarily.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133754966" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133754966">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>and even if such a "fix" broke other things, it would be worthwhile to learn that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755029" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755029">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>my take is that we ought to try the fix</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755032" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755032">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>so we wanted to ask if anyone was interested in implementing the "fix"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755052" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755052">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>with the understanding that you should <em>not</em> start a yak shave of fixing every problem that it uncovers</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755055" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755055">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>(ps, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="128294">@blitzerr</span>, this might be a plausible thing for you)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755062" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755062">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>not sure if they're around :) we'd been talking about trying to find a project</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755093" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755093">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm currently working on <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/52534" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/52534">#52534</a> (and prefer not to have a few issues in limbo so others have a chance to take them) but if it's something that needs done I can give it a shot.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755095" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755095">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway, we don't need anyone to volunteer immediately; we know that some people cannot attend the meeting live</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755110" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755110">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, seems ok</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755112" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755112">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I figure if anyone reading this discussion is interested, they can go ahead and post a comment on the issue saying that they would like to have a go at implementing it.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755122" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755122">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's even good to have some decent starter issues we can shop around</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755163" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755163">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>And meanwhile, either niko or myself will write up mentorship instructions on the issue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755168" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755168">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>I saw you guys were mentioning me for an issue, couldn't read yet #making plans</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755176" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755176">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>that was a different one :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755179" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755179">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>count with me for whatever it's needed because I don't have tasks</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755181" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755181">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755184" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755184">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>(it might be a good idea for me to have a go at the mentorship-instructions, since niko does it so often and I should get some practice writing such instructions efficiently)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755186" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755186">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>I've already assigned the other one to me :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755206" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755206">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway that's all I had to say about <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53695" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53695">#53695</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755213" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755213">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me goes off to skim the "making plans" topic to find out what else we were supposed to talk about</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755222" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755222">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>one thing I would like to talk about is <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/47184" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/47184">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/47184</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755225" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755225">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>the type annotations PR</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755267" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755267">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>er, not the PR per se</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755275" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755275">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>but fixing the remaining points</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755297" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755297">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>(just a thought, would be curious to see what others think, but this might not be the place for it: I'm curious as to whether issues like <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53695" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53695">#53695</a> which are experimental in that they might not pan out to a PR being landed are good starter issues because a new contributor might not feel like they've accomplished much if something doesn't land?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755305" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755305">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>I sketched out some plans — oh, I remember now that someone expressed in that.. <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116108">@Keith Yeung</span> I think?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755320" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755320">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>(just a thought, would be curious to see what others think, but this might not be the place for it: I'm curious as to whether issues like <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53695" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53695">#53695</a> which are experimental in that they might not pan out to a PR being landed are good starter issues because a new contributor might not feel like they've accomplished much if something doesn't land?)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>interesting point...still, seems like if expectations are clear from the start, probably ok?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755321" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755321">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> yes that is definitely a potential concern. Probably better for someone with a few landed PR's under their belt to do this, just so the ego is a little more durable</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755330" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755330">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm actually not sure just how easy it is — depends if we have the MIR statement we need or not —</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755334" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755334">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>if we do, it's just one line probably</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755376" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755376">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>We might be able to adapt <code>ReadForMatch</code> for it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755387" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755387">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>i.e. alpha rename it to <code>FakeRead(Place, Reason)</code> or something.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755397" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Keith Yeung <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755397">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> yes, it was me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755406" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755406">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>or, hey, <code>let</code> is kind of just another kind of <code>match</code> ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755419" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755419">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>so maybe <code>ReadForMatch</code> is the most sensible thing. <span class="emoji emoji-1f61c" title="joking">:joking:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755432" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755432">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p><code>ReadForMatch</code> should be fine, unless we want a better name</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755438" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755438">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>for experimentation purposes, <code>ReadForMatch</code> is probably perfect</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755500" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755500">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>yep</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755502" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755502">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> you want to add more about <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/47184" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/47184">#47184</a> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755509" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755509">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>well, not necessarily, except to say that it might be a place where people can jump in</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755514" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755514">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>perhaps I can try to break it up into a few new issues</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755517" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755517">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>that are more detailed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755520" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755520">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>if no one else wants it here (or outside contributors) I can try <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53695" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53695">#53695</a> (but would need <em>some</em> mentoring instructions <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> sorry)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755521" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755521">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>covering the remaining cases</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755524" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755524">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>they are getting few enough now I think that makes sense</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755546" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755546">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>Speaking of issues that were not nominated but perhaps should have been: there is also some tasks related to reviewing the tests that were ported to <code>ui</code>.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755569" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755569">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>e.g. <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53351" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53351">#53351</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755619" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755619">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>I've assigned it to myself</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755631" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755631">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I'd be happy to try to farm the work out, or let someone else do the initial review</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755632" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755632">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>let's look over the <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3AA-nll+milestone%3A%22Edition+2018+RC+2%22" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3AA-nll+milestone%3A%22Edition+2018+RC+2%22">other milestone issues</a> then I guess</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755636" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755636">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:46)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span>   okay</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755672" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755672">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>especially ones that are not assigned, yeah?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755677" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755677">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>right</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755694" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755694">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd probably be up to write some more detailed mentoring instructions for <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53773" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53773">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53773</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755700" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755700">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>or, more specifically, <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54015" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54015">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54015</a> — which I think subsumes that?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755712" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755712">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>basically following the approach I laid out there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755747" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Keith Yeung <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755747">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>Is <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/47184" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/47184">#47184</a> indeed suitable for people to work on?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755771" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755771">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116108">@Keith Yeung</span> I'll break out some subissues, but I think so — I think that — for the latest approach — the pieces are all there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755778" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755778">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>but it's going to take some refactoring to get them setup for us to use them</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755783" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755783">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I can start by pointing out where they are :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755895" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755895">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>if no one else wants it here (or outside contributors) I can try <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53695" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53695">#53695</a> (but would need <em>some</em> mentoring instructions <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> sorry)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>(I think <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> added the mentoring instructions for the "one line" approach as a comment.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755917" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755917">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>(yeah I saw that, thanks <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span>)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755920" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755920">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes, a very brief one, might use some elaboration</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755923" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755923">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>but maybe it's enough</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755932" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755932">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116113">@lqd</span> should we assign you?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755935" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755935">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>sure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755941" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755941">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>done</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755946" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755946">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3AA-nll+milestone%3A%22Edition+2018+RC+2%22+no%3Aassignee" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3AA-nll+milestone%3A%22Edition+2018+RC+2%22+no%3Aassignee">here are the issues with no assignee</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133755995" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133755995">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>apart from <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53773" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53773">#53773</a> and <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54015" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54015">#54015</a> (previously mentioned), there are two more</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756019" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756019">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<ul>
<li>better error message when returning refs to upvars <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53040" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53040">#53040</a> </li>
<li>create a specific error for temporary values that are borrowed too long <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54131" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54131">#54131</a></li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756024" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756024">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>both are diagnostic improvements targeting points of common user confusion</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756027" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756027">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess both need mentoring instructions probably</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756052" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756052">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53040" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53040">#53040</a> has a long discussion, but the actual code will be simple (I think...). The hard part is deciding what the text should be.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756060" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756060">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>(ps does anyone see a reason that the approach I outlined in <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54015" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54015">#54015</a> would not subsume <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53773" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53773">#53773</a>?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756102" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756102">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53040" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53040">#53040</a> has a long discussion, but the actual code will be simple (I think...). The hard part is deciding what the text should be.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>ah yeah I forgot we still have to workshop that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756115" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756115">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54131" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54131">#54131</a> is similar I think (I guess there's also writing a good explain message)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756139" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756139">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54131" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54131">#54131</a> is a bit easier</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756141" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756141">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>both in terms of what the msg should be</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756143" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756143">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>and in terms of when it should trigger</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756155" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756155">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>basically we already report that error in a fairly special way, but I think we can just deviate a bit <em>more</em> than we do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756168" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756168">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yes, probably</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756173" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756173">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>When you write &amp;expr and expr is a "path" rooted in some variable (e.g., &amp;foo.bar) but rather something that creates a new value (e.g., &amp;foo()), a temporary will be created:</p>
</blockquote>
<p>In this sentence from <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54131" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54131">#54131</a> should it be "a path not rooted in some variable" or am I parsing that sentence wrong?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756186" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756186">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>In the five minutes we have remaining, do you want to say anything about plans for Polonius, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756257" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756257">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>In this sentence from <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54131" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54131">#54131</a> should it be "a path not rooted in some variable" or am I parsing that sentence wrong?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>it's got a problem, should be "expr is not a path rooted in some variable"... kind of contorting myself not to say 'lvalue' there :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756276" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756276">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>In the five minutes we have remaining, do you want to say anything about plans for Polonius, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> ?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>well, I guess the TL;DR is that it seems like we're getting close to the point where we should start thinking about Polonius again</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756293" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756293">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>I know there are like a bajillion pending PRs on the repo from <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116113">@lqd</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756304" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756304">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was hoping this week to look over those</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756314" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756314">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>there are also some bugs in the polonius support in rustc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756318" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756318">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>i.e., I know I broke some of the fact generating code :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756371" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756371">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not sure at what point it makes sense to shift our focus though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756372" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756372">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>(and some I can't easily make yet until the others are merged (in datafrog's repo as well))</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756375" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756375">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am a bit worried about trying to sustain</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756380" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756380">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>focus on two things at once</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756381" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756381">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think it ever reported errors in Rustc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756388" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756388">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>that is, some part of me wants to wait until we sort of feel the Edition is "done"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756392" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756392">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>which seems like we're not <em>quite</em> there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756414" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756414">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>there is also this question about perf: how much more do we want to work to eke out perf...particularly if some of that work may not apply to polonius?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756426" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756426">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think I am feeling kind of "ok" about it now, but maybe that's something we should "shop around" to a wider audience?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756429" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756429">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>there seems to be a bunch of issues for the RC2 milestone, that it seems maybe better to look at it then ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756434" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756434">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe the answer will come with how many people compalin about Rust 2018 RC etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756437" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756437">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess the thing I want to ask is this: Were any of you signing on to help with the expectation that you'd get to be focusing on Polonius, and thus we risk losing your assistance if we continue to delay Polonius work ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756441" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756441">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116113">@lqd</span> I think it was the RC2 unassigned issues we were just looking at?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756442" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756442">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>there seems to be a bunch of issues for the RC2 milestone, that it seems maybe better to look at it then ?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>well, we did go over those that are not assigned yet</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756450" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756450">(Sep 11 2018 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>but yes we haven't closed them yet</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756494" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756494">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>that is, there are plenty of "not yet complete" issues</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756518" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756518">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>so maybe talk of polonius is still a bit premature</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756526" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756526">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>I mean, we want to do/fix those issues I assume ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756533" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756533">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:00)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>I guess the thing I want to ask is this: Were any of you signing on to help with the expectation that you'd get to be focusing on Polonius, and thus we risk losing your assistance if we continue to delay Polonius work ?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>oh, interesting <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756547" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756547">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:00)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>I mean, we want to do/fix those issues I assume ?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I think so, yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756566" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756566">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me hates to ask questions like that, but burnout is a real thing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756673" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756673">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it's a fair question, I feel (anecdotally) that there was a slight surge of new blood around when Polonius was in full swing.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756678" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756678">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> playing around with Polonius' precursor is what personally drew me in, but no, you won't lose the little assistance I provide :p</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756698" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756698">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>I think it's a fair question, I feel (anecdotally) that there was a slight surge of new blood around when Polonius was in full swing.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>it also overlapped iirc with RustFest</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756701" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756701">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>but yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756708" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756708">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ah yeah, that's right.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756711" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756711">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>still, one thing I've learned from various attempts to run WG</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756716" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756716">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>it also overlapped iirc with RustFest</p>
</blockquote>
<p>quite true</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756722" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756722">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>is that they work <strong>so much better</strong> when you can devote yourself 100% to it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756737" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756737">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>which is why I worry about trying to do work on polonius when there are other higher priority issues distracting us</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756748" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756748">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>(maybe 100% is not needed, but the point is, when you have enough time to really dig in)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756762" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756762">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>I mean I feel bad that I haven't answered <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span>'s questions about diagnostics very well yet ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756808" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756808">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think a WG definitely needs someone at the helm that everyone knows they can ping for direction.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756811" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756811">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>Which questions?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756823" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756823">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay, well, if anyone reading this (including async people) do feel like they fall into the bucket of "person who was hoping to do more Polonius hacking": please do reach out to either me or niko. I think we want to know.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756832" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756832">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>Put my stuff at the bottom of the pile, if you don't answer quickly then I'll end up figuring it out myself through brute force.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756870" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756870">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>ps I've been poking at <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53121" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53121">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53121</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756875" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756875">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess I should put it in the paper</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756882" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756882">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>just a status update :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756884" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756884">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:05)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>which is why I worry about trying to do work on polonius when there are other higher priority issues distracting us</p>
</blockquote>
<p>other NLL high priority issues or in  general in the compiler/lang ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756941" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756941">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>kind of either way</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756954" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756954">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>mostly I meant: before, at least, I felt like it was hard for me to concentrate on polonius <em>and</em> the current NLL checker</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756959" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756959">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>my head wasn't big enough for both</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756978" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756978">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think I will feel better once we are down to just "minor diagnostic issues"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756990" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756990">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>we still have a few soundness / complete things we really gotta finish off</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756991" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756991">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>we'll get there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133756997" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133756997">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>basically, once we're down to things that need not block the release</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133757015" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133757015">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me shrugs; he thinks we're <em>basically</em> there.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133757069" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133757069">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>![image](<a href="https://media3.giphy.com/media/g8vuMIwLMTJEQ/giphy.gif" target="_blank" title="https://media3.giphy.com/media/g8vuMIwLMTJEQ/giphy.gif">https://media3.giphy.com/media/g8vuMIwLMTJEQ/giphy.gif</a>)</p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133757073" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133757073">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>(thanks in part to some recent  heroic last minute PR's)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133757090" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133757090">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe ![this one](<a href="https://media.giphy.com/media/4EcZXsqYMVydq/giphy.gif" target="_blank" title="https://media.giphy.com/media/4EcZXsqYMVydq/giphy.gif">https://media.giphy.com/media/4EcZXsqYMVydq/giphy.gif</a>)</p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133757092" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133757092">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133757120" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133757120">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>on that inspiring note, shall we call the meeting?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133757126" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133757126">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was thinking people can hack on polonius even if 100% of the WG isn't right now (as I sometimes do), esp if it looks like <em>some</em> amount of at least thoughts or plans are in the books in just weeks</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133757213" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133757213">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>that is, it's not forgotten :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133757254" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133757254">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>good afternoon/evening everyone :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133757261" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133757261">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems good. Maybe we can just try it out :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133757298" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133757298">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>at minimum I want to see what the pending PRs are</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133757308" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133757308">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay. I think that's a wrap for this "shorter" meeting. :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133757311" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133757311">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>and I'd kind of like to fix that dang bug :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133757314" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133757314">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>whatever it was...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133757344" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133757344">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>there are tests for that bug</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%20September%2011/near/133757374" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.20September.2011.html#133757374">(Sep 11 2018 at 20:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>at least they'll remember what it was :)</p>



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